Gah! Oh my. You know, I've gone over this so many many many many times with BastionMonk before. I've presented all the evidence available to me. Whatever decision you guys make, go ahead. All I know is that Crichton descibes a 2m Raptor, clones from Amber found in Cretaceous Mongolian rock. We know that Crichton had access to GS Paul's Predator Dinosaurs of the World, and that he took many inspirations from that particular book when writing Jurassic Park. Paul makes a passing mention of a yet to be described Raptor larger than Deinonychus found in Cretaceous Mongolian rocks. I presumed that this was what gave Crichton the idea for his super-Raptors.
Hey, Jhayk' Sulliy. I noticed that on our Dilophosaurus article there's image in the gallery that's supposingly concept art of Dilophosaurus for Jurassic Park III. Since you have great knowledge about the Jurassic Park franchise, I wanted to ask you if this claim is true because I haven't been able to find anything about Dilophosaurus being originally planned for Jurassic Park III.
Really? Was it used for cover art, advertising, or something else for the game? The only place I've found this image outside of Jurassic Park wiki, both Spanish and English, was on a thread in a forum posted three years before the photo was uploaded to this wiki.
After much time spent reviewing the Jurassic World site, I see many (possible) references to the first Jurassic Park novel. First off, the hotel rooms. The site shows Hotel rooms with beige and tan linings/colorings, whereas the general viewer would expect more modern silver-bluish colors to go with the new Park's colors. The Safari Lodge rooms in the first book are described with tan and beige linings as well.
Then there's a picture like this; it shows multiple security guards, a very modern and steel-framed building (probably the hotel). This is also very similar to the novel's visitor center (describing many guards and personnel in a very modern and sleek building) What do you think? Do you think we'll see more references? Any plotlines?
Definitely a lot of nostalgia baiting is going into this movie, from the return of the JP1 style Raptors, several callbacks to the novels, the Gallimimus run as seen in the trailer, new park on Nublar, and even the return of Rexy from JP1 (the model on the website even shows accurate placement of scars from when she was attacked by the Raptors). I think a lot of this is meant to bring back nostalgia from those who remember the novels and the first film from their childhood.
Until you can convince Jhayk and me that JP:TG is not movie-canon. You are not allowed to do that. This wiki is a GROUP effort. Back then in 2011 we decided as a community that JP:TG is probably canon, and we present the information as such. You do not have the right to decide on your own which media does or does not fit into film canon. If you can't be a team player, I'm gonna block you.
We have lots and lots of work that still needs work on this wiki. The l;ast thing we want now is to spend all the time we can spare from our real life for this wiki on undoing your vandalism.
I can be an invaluable addition to the wiki, better than most. I simply require that JP: The Game be placed in the game section and left out from the film section. Not much to ask. You have no solid evidence that is is canon.
Listen, we have a procedure about this. You need to provide good, concrete evidence for your proposal to remove JPTG from the canon. Until you do that, stop editting the articles to your favor. If you pulled this shit on any other Wiki, they'd have banned your ass by now. Do not take advantage of our hospitality by jumping guns and editting articles without providing your evidence. You've done nothing thus far but make assertions and demands. Start providing evidence for your claims and we'll start to listen to them.
The only deviations it makes is to stuff that is not hard canon. Actors appearances can change, and that's what happened with the game vs Gerald R. Molen's potrayal in the film. Furthermore, there is nothing in the game that contradicts what is in the films. There is nothing in the films that says none of the new species in the game aren't present, nor does it say that there aren't more people on the island. There's also no contradiction with the Pteranodons and their aviary. An aviary concept is seen in on of the slides during the Lunch scene, and Pteranodons are seen in the mural of the Operations Center in the Worker Village on Sorna. Putting these two together, this indicates that if there's not already a stocked aviary on Nublar, one was either planned or being built. The game took the formers route and confirmed an aviary on Isla Nublar. It also does not alter any of the geography or layouts of the island. Everything regarding Isla Nublars geography is kept intact. The animals themselves do not change appearance. They remain looking the same as they do in the original movie. Muldoon's statement about breeding only 8 Raptors also doesn't make sense with TLW in the picture. InGen likely bred A LOT more than just 8 Raptors, and this is apparent on Isla Sorna. So, who's to say that there's not more Raptors on Isla Nublar? Finally, this latest bit of evidence: In the Marani viral site, Mount Sibo, the volcano on Isla Nublar, is mentioned by name. This is a distinct allusion to the game.
There are so many retcons this game makes to the film if you consider it canon. What true fan would take a petty game over the original classic film? NONE. It is my hope that Jurassic World flat out RETCONS any chance of the game being considered canon by any sane person. Time will tell. As for now, I am happy knowing that the game has far too many inconsistencies to be considered canon to any sensible person.
And if it does, it does. And the game will be stricken from the film portions of the articles. Until then, it's allowed to coexist. The game doesn't overwrite anything concrete in the films. It doesn't change anything major. It makes a few retcons, nothing more that anything that has ever been dealt with by Wookieepedia. I personally will never take JPTG over the film, but I do not allow that to cloud my judgement that the games fits, without making any big ripples.
This Wiki follows the same kind of canon ladder all the other wikis do. The retcon to Gerald Molen's appearance is treated no different than on any other Wiki. Dr. Harding's film appearance is first and foremost (hence it's placement within the info box), and the Game's appearance is used only in reference to the Game. There is no other significant retcons that don't merely act as *additions* to the story moreso than they do true retcons.
Were you able to get hold of The Lost World:Jurassic Park documentary that contains rare deleted scenes like the four-members one. If so, can you convert it and upload it somewhere. The only one we have is a handheld video which shakes a lot. It'd be great . Thanks